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priest George ROC + ROCOR =... promised

bring to your attention statyusvyaschennika George Belodurova fater_go of the Moscow Patriarchate.
I asked him to express their views on the theme "Connecting the MP and ROCOR (L). I would like to say straight away that does not agree with much of the article. George, but it seems useful provide an opinion of the priest MP "from remote places."
Maybe someone takes the trouble to translate it into English for those who do not read in Russian?

Original article is in the diary, Fr. George
http://www.livejournal.com/users/fater_go/7250.html


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One of my Learn Friend ( preteandrei ) asked me to comment on the recently hot "and now a slightly receded into the background theme of" Connecting the MP and ROCOR (L). The fact is what about this more moderate liberals were writing, but opinion is more conservative wing of the clergy of the MP was ignored. I do not know how much I have right to represent the conservatives, since not delegated to anyone, but if the proposal was received, it is not a sin to use it.

Before proceeding to the actual subject, I would like to designate their place in a wide range of forces and attitudes present in the MP. To the extreme I can not in any way not belong. Those struggling with TIN require the canonization of Rasputin and Ivan the Terrible, rush to the neck every zarubezhniku and mostly suffer from a mental disorder that department staff, which ensures the existence of the ordinary people of common sense. But on the other hand, I have consistently antiekumenist, in the sense that Orthodoxy has in the fullness of religious truth and grace, and that the Church as the Body of Christ, is incomparable to any other ORGANIZATIONS, as if they did not call themselves.
Borders Church held in the hearts of people and cover all arriving in one mind tenets and grace of the Holy Sacraments. If two or three Orthodox bark, as dogs, it is unlikely that a "member of the Church", because they are not collected in the name of Christ, and therefore there is no Christ in their midst (Matt. 18, 20).
And so should avoid the "thin community" (1 Cor. 15, 33), store in the heart of the world, but about God and the Church bear witness only in spirit and truth.

Almost all "Protestants" that make up in ecumenical organizations the majority, are a heretical community fall under the anathema of the Holy Ecumenical Councils - or not worship of the true Virgin Mother of God, or not honoring Sv.Ikony, as well as practicing female priesthood and the protection of Sodom sin. Call any community sister Churches - grave sin, humbles the True Church, and true faith. Indulge in it - is a sin, but because of this sin in a certain group of individuals to refuse the grace of the Sacraments, which stores Church - complete madness. And so, remembering that for 2000 years the church regularly cleaned from all defilement, and we will tirelessly preaching and prayer working in the field of God in the Church, which feeds us secrets (we were not the "- that's where the hidden sergianism), saves us (we are not her), and we are not ungrateful children. It - our Mother! Do not cast her on what to dress her down dirty drop of our sins.

the outset of the ROC. It should be noted that it varies. It contains different views, likes and dislikes on a variety of church issues. This is due, as to spiritual causes, for example. in the case of kochetkovtsami - a group professing own exclusivity, elitism. It is clear that such mindsets are peculiar only to those who are subordinate to their pride. There filokatoliki ready and serve with the Catholics, and to recognize the primacy of the Roman Pontiff. There are fans of Protestant theology. They have their own theological seminaries and academies ... right! St. Peterbourgskaya! All of them are friends with each other, and all of them would have long time to throw. But the brothers goes to the Friend of the Department of External Church Relations,. And this structure is very strong. And here's why. The stronger the DECR, the more influence
has its head Met. Cyril. And from here, and ecumenism. There will be no ecumenism, lose its value DECR. Lose value DECR - then who will be deemed to M. Cyril?
And what do you understand what this metropolitan all-powerful, but in elderly patients Patriarch, can not allow that. That has to compete with anyone ...
But there are a great many, I say without exaggeration - Most, bishops and priests who, each in its proper place in his diocese and his parish of the Russian people defending the right to know and practice their faith, protect the flock from predators Wolves - sectarian and heterodox. And they are sometimes in opposition and government, with its increasingly pro-Western orientation, and even in opposition, although not disputed, all-powerful metropolitans, with their ecumenism for the sake of personal power. No criticism of the MP, branding it as a graceless and inflict a blow, but just that, honest Pastors of the Church. It is our work, to extract from the secularism and sectarianism are denied by the Russian people and indulge in desecration.
Sometimes I feel covers doubt - and do I need to join this proud tribe of "foreign" kritikanov? But the thirst to have in the Church even greater advantage, the need to forgive her - is always convinces me to reach out to Orthodox Christians of the ROCOR.

Foreign Orthodoxy same multi-faceted, multi-faceted as the people that make up Russian Diaspora. Someone coming over the cordon, easily poured into a new environment,
learns to live as "natives." For them, it is natural that the Church should not oppose them to their new friends and colleagues. "Father, today we will be visiting colleagues. They are such lovely people and my husband is very important to have among them support. " There will then share their views "as was the Sunday service. And Methodist will talk about his faith, and Orthodox - of their own. The priest does not make round eyes and screaming that they go to the heretical gathering with people with whom you can not canon to not only read a prayer before eating, but to sit at one table. In the parish of the priest will be collected just such "ecumenical Russian." And the parish they will have an ecumenical, such as the OCA Paris or the hierarchy under the jurisdiction of Constantinople. Others, finding themselves in a strange land feel isolated, looking for fellow countrymen, again and again to drink in spirit of the lost homeland, to enjoy their own, never ending road of church atmosphere,
crouching at the feet of Orthodoxy ... including, and as a native Russian, National faith.
Among those parishioners meet the parish of ROCOR.

being granted to itself Abroad Russian Orthodox split long and well. There were splits and in Russia. But they were not such as abroad. In Russia, only the MP was able to survive. And not only survive, but generally combine all tserkvonye force. Initially, the ROCOR and MP acknowledged and supported it. Just remember that it Dzhordanvilskoe publisher to supply us the lion's share of the Orthodox literature. But then, for unknown
bewitchment, the leadership of the ROCA impression. That MPs - only the iceberg, hiding a huge part of the Catacomb. Speech talked about many millions of secret believers. Maybe then and prividilos that in Russia there is a separation like that overseas, and for the OCA meets MP and for the ROCOR - catacombs, and therefore inevitable confrontation with the Patriarchate. For this knfrontatsii were formulated demeaning ideologies that in MP there is no grace, and in Russia there are no Russian,
and live only obolvanennye assholes - scoops. Further history from the discovery in Russia's own ROCOR parishes and attempts legalize non-existent catacombs shows the fallacy of such a confrontation. Instead of a coherent structure of the church - only a few parishes (in mainly of priests, troublemakers) + splinter ROCA RAPTS branch (the same is not free!) + is not quite clear relationship with polusektantami-catacombniks, which by day the fire will not find (the exception is
Bishop Lazarus Zhurbenko known KGB shny snitch). By the way, the current catacombniks - entirely a replica, not having no historical roots (in the splits 20-ies), or fertile soil.

At the same time, most of the ROCOR, seeing the process of liberation from the shackles of MP Soviets, felt the need to establish extensive contacts with compatriots. This is natural.
Cohesive-in-exile precisely because of love for the motherland, they must were to implement his main hope - to establish a spiritual union with the Motherland. Decision of the Council in 2000 was due to just that.
In connection with this part, especially pessimistic clerics with Metropolitan. Vitali broke away from the majority of the ROCOR, headed by Metropolitan. Laurus. I think this situation should only welcome because 20-30 years ROCA (Vitali) will finally turn into a dwarf apocalyptic sect, and disappear from the face of the earth.

left alive in the ROCOR (Laurus) to unite with the MP in the Russian Orthodox Church. However, this process must be very gradual. One has to respect the mutual self-esteem and exercise commitment to the canonical connection - eg. MP eliminate overseas portion, passing her government, together with the bishops of the ROCOR (L), and she sends his Russian parishes of the Patriarchate. We must remember that both sides have claims to each other. Both sides have and weaknesses. In MP this ecumenism and the presence in the ranks of alien element. Y ROCA - fighting Sergianism, which does not exactly identified and serves more as a general term denoting the weak position of Orthodoxy in Russia during the Bolshevik persecution. But this should temper claims for the truth, they beat us, but not broken enrolled in the category of losses, and in the category of the Holy New Martyrs. So everything is very difficult. Before the war, talk about canonical discipline, when one bishop with the drug could blame other bishops that in the other bunk, completely impossible. After administration of the Church, and make imennoeto bishops can not call it! But the last war and the people recognized the ROC's their only church, the catacombs poured into the MP, and it's evidence that the church returned to its normal state.

summarize. The historical association of the MP and ROCOR will inevitably and desirable. Perhaps
communion will be established as early as next year or two. However, the structural union will not be quick.
Apparently this is correct, and therefore not worth much force on this atmosphere. There is still much work
glory of God. And we ... and you ...
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priest George Belodurov
Temple St. Nicholas
Tver
March 3, st. Piamy virgins.